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From: Doug Haines

To: harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au

Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 12:32 PM

Subject: Re: [harryproa] harry sailors?! .....ABBA?

hi rudolf, mine makes a dragging carve through the water when steered hard around. good fun. obviously you can;t have it both ways, but would be a useful tactic some times, since as i say it sails fine opposite win sides. though you then not using hulls and weight efficiently, was meaning up a river into the wind (without needing motot). one situatiob where a monohull wins   doug   how is the "abba" , whast was it called attu/arttu's rigging coming? --- On Wed, 20/5/09, Rudolf vd Brug <rpvdb@freeler.nl> wrote: From: Rudolf vd Brug <rpvdb@freeler.nl> Subject: Re: [harryproa] harry sailors?! To: harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au Date: Wednesday, 20 May, 2009, 6:00 PM No, while sailing we always use only one rudder, the other is fixed in position. Using both rudders may have more steering effect but also slows you down badly. In the end part the lw hull is to be dragged sideways through the water and with zero rocker that takes a lot of force.   regards, Rudolf ----- Original Message ----- From: Doug Haines To: harryproa@yahoogrou ps.com.au Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 3:18 AM Subject: Re: [harryproa] harry sailors?! yeagh same with didecar - but i thought with two rudders it was possible were you using both rudders steering together? --- On Wed, 20/5/09, Rudolf vd Brug <rpvdb@freeler. nl> wrote: From: Rudolf vd Brug <rpvdb@freeler. nl> Subject: Re: [harryproa] harry sailors?! To: harryproa@yahoogrou ps.com.au Date: Wednesday, 20 May, 2009, 12:00 AM Hi,   We tried tacking Blind Date once. I can't remember more than once. We didn't succeed and stopped trying soon. Maybe it can be done once you find the right way to it. The boat looses speed very fast and needs a lot of rudder if you want to tack. Left in irons it is very nice to be able to pull the other sheet and proceed in the opposite direction.   regards, Rudolf  ----- Original Message ----- From: Doug Haines To: harryproa@yahoogrou ps.com.au Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 12:41 PM Subject: [harryproa] harry sailors?! Hi,l   Wondering about tacking upwind on a harry. Can you do it - harry sailors other than Rob , would be nice to hear from once in  a while! I may try tommorrow on harrioette, with forwatd locked, aft steering. Definitely too hard other day when trying briefly to tack sidecar, wouldnm't go aroyund. Thi si is a big bonus since the boat (mine from experience) sails really weell on the "wrong side" ie sails over on the inboard side etc. So to come up a river eg to Maylands up the Swan how much extra steering/ turning work would make it go? Report I heard is rare bird tacked.   Doug --- On Tue, 19/5/09, Robert <cateran1949@ yahoo.co. uk> wrote: From: Robert <cateran1949@ yahoo.co. uk> Subject: [harryproa] Re: Contrarry plans update To: harryproa@yahoogrou ps.com.au Date: Tuesday, 19 May, 2009, 8:32 PM Congratulations on the design. simple and fits inside the container. If you are going to sail it to Oz, we have some interesting bars to go over if you want to explore some of the waterways. Both Rare Bird and Aroha have had some reasonably dramatic moments. regards, Robert --- In harryproa@yahoogrou ps.com.au, Gardner Pomper <gardner@... > wrote: > > The batteries will be in a box, which forms the first step up from the > ww hull to the cockpit. They will have a lid, so you can step on them. > Making it waterproof is probably a good idea, although how I would get > water down the companionway on a proa, with the wind behind the ww > hull is hard to imagine. Scary. > > More details on that once I get the interior modelled in sketchup. > > Thanks for the thought. > > - Gardner > > On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 3:27 PM, jrwells2007 <jrwells2007@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Batteries at the lowest point. If for any reason you took a wave down the > > hatchway, would the batteries be safe? On my F27 the battery was located at > > about waist height so that it would still be operational if swamped. > > > > --- In harryproa@yahoogrou ps.com.au, Gardner Pomper <gardner@> wrote: > >> > >> Hi all, > >> > >> I have uploaded my latest tweaking of the plans for Contrarry. Not > >> much has changed, but I did finally make a 3D model with google > >> sketchup and have included a couple of 3D renderings from that to give > >> a better sense of what it looks like. I think I have finally figured > >> out how to work on the interior of the boat, so hopefully I will get > >> that outfitted and rendered for upload by the end of the week. > >> > >> As always, comments are welcome. > >> > >> Find the plans and renderings in the Files section of this group, > >> under Gardner's Layouts -> Contrarry > >> > >> - Gardner > >> > > > > >

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